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the second thing is that goes hand in hand with the debt and the deficit. and while republicans love to think that obama's not focused on the debt and deficit, doesn't want to do anything about it, that is absolutely not the case. he has said from the very beginning that it is a big priority but that we need to do it in a balanced way so that we don't hurt those that are most vulnerable. the third is immigration. after this election, the latino community, the latino vote, big reason why this president was re-elected. he owes them that. it has been a priority for him. he is going to find a way to get it done. hopefully republicans understand if they want a chance to get to the white house any time in the next four years, eight years, a generation, they'll have to do something on immigration. >> all right. so, amy, maria's number three is your number one. which is immigration. number two is obama care. number three, mystery scandal. so, let's talk about immigration, first. though i'm dying to get to that scandal. >> good morning. it's so great to see that vie
the second thing is that goes hand in hand with the debt and the deficit. and while republicans love to think that obama's not focused on the debt and deficit, doesn't want to do anything about it, that is absolutely not the case. he has said from the very beginning that it is a big priority but that we need to do it in a balanced way so that we don't hurt those that are most vulnerable. the third is immigration. after this election, the latino community, the latino vote, big reason why this...
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if there were, we wouldn't have a deficit. let me give you an example. february 15th. i choose that day because that might be the day. might be a little early but it might be the day that we stop being able to mess things around. okay. the federal government on that day will take in an estimated $9 billion in revenues. again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got a shortfall of $43 billion. they need to prioritize bills on that day. they can put off others. we're not entirely sure that prioritizing payments is legal but that's probably what they will have to do. the treasury could wait until it has enough revenue on hand to cover one full day's payments and means all the bills would be paid late and we know how that storts starts to look. johnny isakson is a member of the senate finance committee. senator, thank you for being with us. i wanted to talk with you for quite some time. you have an extensive, extensive business background. and you can agree that deciding to pay some bills but not others while you wait to scrap
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would surplus at sometimes but ordinarily deficits were small and manageable. what's different today we're not necessarily talking about funding or not borrowing for disaster, we're borrowing for everything else and that puts us in this new and frankly uncomfortable position. if we had taken care of our underlying financial and fiscal needs and paid for the operation of this government without borrowing huge sums of money we wouldn't have to have this conversation. we've undermined our own ability for our own people. imagine the united states of america being in the circumstance it is today we have to ask other countries to lend us money so we can take care of our own. that's an embarrassment to me. i'm not happy to be in this position. it's not because of what happened in sandy, it's because of what happened before we got to sandy. >> congressman mick mulvaney nice to talk to you. makes an excellent point at the same time. if you are a person affected by sandy many folks in our state of new jersey you hear that, this is closing the barn door after the horse ha
would surplus at sometimes but ordinarily deficits were small and manageable. what's different today we're not necessarily talking about funding or not borrowing for disaster, we're borrowing for everything else and that puts us in this new and frankly uncomfortable position. if we had taken care of our underlying financial and fiscal needs and paid for the operation of this government without borrowing huge sums of money we wouldn't have to have this conversation. we've undermined our own...
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plus, from immigration to deficit reduction, what else is on his second term to-do list. and is compromise or confrontation the real goal? plus the suicide of an internet activist finds his family crying foul. was aaron schwartz a victim of government intimidation and a run away prosecutor. >> while there's no law or set of laws that can prevent every sinceless act of violence completely, no piece of legislation that will prevent he every tragedy, every act of evil, if there's even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if there's even one life that can be saved, then we've got an obligation to try it. >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report, i'm paul gigot, that was president obama rolling out the plan to curb gun violence and the president outlined 23 executive actions, including more steps to make more federal data available from background checks and increased access to mental health services and he called on congress to reinstate the federal assault weapons ban and prohibit high capacity gun magazines that can hold more than ten rounds. so, what's like
plus, from immigration to deficit reduction, what else is on his second term to-do list. and is compromise or confrontation the real goal? plus the suicide of an internet activist finds his family crying foul. was aaron schwartz a victim of government intimidation and a run away prosecutor. >> while there's no law or set of laws that can prevent every sinceless act of violence completely, no piece of legislation that will prevent he every tragedy, every act of evil, if there's even one...
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taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more cooperative, working environment. to you, sir, what does the republican party need to do to try to get some things done? >> i have to differ with the preface, john. >> i thought you might. >> barack obama -- look, this notion that partisanship has taken over. it began when barack obama became president. i was chairman of the financial service committee of 2007 in the bush administration and i worked very closely with hank paulson, secretary of the treasury. we worked on putting fannie mae and freddie mac to stop the lawsuits. george bush went to harry reid
taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more...
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the deficit solving the committee's to read our committees like that effective? simpson-bowles. >> guest: the greatest mistake the president made is not embracing taylor branch tiemann it cannot today. we wouldn't be here today have you taken the simpson-bowles framework although there was a lot that i didn't like i voted to move it so that we would have the debate two years ago, two plus years ago had we had the debate and actually put something on the floor we would have seen something passed. we would have allowed the legislative process we are not allowing the legislative process to work. there's 25 bills that have come out of the house that won't see the light of day and a set for political reasons, not because they don't address problems for the country but so what we still have is people paying politics and how does that impact of the election and how we live while the barn is burning down. .. we have an hour and a half left in our program and we will continue in just a moment. ♪ >> host: senator coburn coming up on our afterwards the program. he's going
the deficit solving the committee's to read our committees like that effective? simpson-bowles. >> guest: the greatest mistake the president made is not embracing taylor branch tiemann it cannot today. we wouldn't be here today have you taken the simpson-bowles framework although there was a lot that i didn't like i voted to move it so that we would have the debate two years ago, two plus years ago had we had the debate and actually put something on the floor we would have seen something...
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but deficit hawks insist a big deal, a so-called grand bargain is critical for jumping starting u.s. economic growth. >> we've got to reform the tax code and probably raise more revenues than we have and importantly we have to focus on controlling spending and reforming our entitlements which are right now unsustainable. delaying all of this is irresponsible. >> reporter: hard choices ahead whether the congress and the president can come together remains to be seen. christine romans, cnn, new york. >>> and, remember, you can catch a special inauguration coverage right here on cnn live coverage begins on sunday. continuing into monday. our mornings begin at 9:00 a.m. eastern. don't miss it. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look
but deficit hawks insist a big deal, a so-called grand bargain is critical for jumping starting u.s. economic growth. >> we've got to reform the tax code and probably raise more revenues than we have and importantly we have to focus on controlling spending and reforming our entitlements which are right now unsustainable. delaying all of this is irresponsible. >> reporter: hard choices ahead whether the congress and the president can come together remains to be seen. christine...
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that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our bu
that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current...
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he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this whole issue on "cbs this morning" and i'll read you what he said. "it isn't a smart fight for congressional republicans to pick, because in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default, no one will allow the united states to not pay its bills, no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side." so even newt gingrich says this isn't a wise fight to pick. you may feel strongly about spending cuts but this isn't the right time to fight. >> when is the right time? when is the right time? bec
he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this...
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. >> he called me and said mark, you know, you have to do this he said you were talking about deficit, government spending 1520 years ago when nobody was that much focused on it. they are now. here's a chance for you to take what you learned on the way up, what you learned on the way down, what you learned in congress before, what you learned in the governorship and apply it to what is really the debate of our time. >> you will remember his governorship, which was riddled with that story where he admitted an affair with a woman from argentina back in 2009. >>> look at this, unless you're a little claustrophobic. this oregon woman spent nearly four hours trapped in an eight-inch space between an apartment building and a 20-foot wall. this happened early wednesday morning in downtown portland. apparently she fell from a second floor smoking area and getting her out was not easy. firefighters had to cut through a section of wall and used air bags to widen the space. lieutenant rich chapman is the firefighter who pulled that woman out. >> we were assuring her we were doing everything to g
. >> he called me and said mark, you know, you have to do this he said you were talking about deficit, government spending 1520 years ago when nobody was that much focused on it. they are now. here's a chance for you to take what you learned on the way up, what you learned on the way down, what you learned in congress before, what you learned in the governorship and apply it to what is really the debate of our time. >> you will remember his governorship, which was riddled with that...
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two months, three months, four months and more if need be when he wants to do big things on debt and deficit, big things on medicare, comprehensive immigration reform, and will be in a fight with republicans over that? this is going to be a test of how long the president is prepared to wage what -- to get hard stuff done to get an assault weapons ban, to get the magazine clips, universal background check is easier, but the president has to dig in and fight and it will be fascinating to watch. >> this is a statement we have gotten from the nra, national rifle association, part of the statement. we look forward to working with congress on a bipartisan basis to find real solutions to protecting america's most valuable asset, our children. attacking firearms and ignoring children is not a solution to the crisis we face as a nation, only honest, law abiding gun owners will be affected and our children will remain vulnerable to the inevitability of more tragedy. to the inevitability of more tragedy, john king, to the latter part of that statement, congress could enact everything that the president
two months, three months, four months and more if need be when he wants to do big things on debt and deficit, big things on medicare, comprehensive immigration reform, and will be in a fight with republicans over that? this is going to be a test of how long the president is prepared to wage what -- to get hard stuff done to get an assault weapons ban, to get the magazine clips, universal background check is easier, but the president has to dig in and fight and it will be fascinating to watch....
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. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and it's not a reduction in baseline, it's a reduction in the rate of growth of spending, which is again suffocating to the private economy and unsustainable over the course of the next several years. >> megyn: one thing we did hear the president reference personally, we heard it from nancy pelosi prior, but the president personally talking about now closing more loopholes and that means higher taxes. we don't know on who, but he would not specify any specific spending reductions and refusing to negotiate with the house republicans on the issue of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking for
. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and...
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, or cut the deficit, at least. the president doesn't seem to be on that same page. >> yeah. look. republicans in the house and in the senate, for that matter, and the president i think so fundamentally disagree on the major issues of the day. i mean, so much so that i think common ground is very hard for them to find and will continue to be hard for them to find. the key thing to look for, john, and what people want to try to figure out, are things going to be different over the next two or four years, or do they at least start to show signs of wanting to negotiate deals where both sides are allowed to win? we have not seen that, whether you want to blame the president, whether you want to blame republicans. you just haven't seen that. they don't like each other. they don't get along well. there are no relationships there whatsoever, and that's why i'm skeptical that things will be different. and again, it kind of goes to the core of what they believe. they just don't agree on anything. i'd be shocked if they agree
, or cut the deficit, at least. the president doesn't seem to be on that same page. >> yeah. look. republicans in the house and in the senate, for that matter, and the president i think so fundamentally disagree on the major issues of the day. i mean, so much so that i think common ground is very hard for them to find and will continue to be hard for them to find. the key thing to look for, john, and what people want to try to figure out, are things going to be different over the next two...
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fixing the budget deficit, the federal budget was the most important to 13%. only 5% thought tax reform was important. and you may be looking at this poll and thinking, well, what happened to the war in afghanistan? well, there it is, it comes in at 4%, health care at 5% ending the war in afghanistan the most important priority for only 4% of the american people. but we should not ever forget that as we sit here today approximately 60,000 americans are fighting in afghanistan. the president is drawing those troops down but we have a long way to go yet in that war that is now more than ten years old. john dickerson our cbs news political director, he's down on the national mall, john, you see that 35% by far the largest majority of people in our poll think the president needs to be working on the economy. >> that's still the single most important issue for the president, much further down or much smaller percentage want them work on the deficit. really the deficit and getting the budget picture in order, ending these endless confrontations over the budget will
fixing the budget deficit, the federal budget was the most important to 13%. only 5% thought tax reform was important. and you may be looking at this poll and thinking, well, what happened to the war in afghanistan? well, there it is, it comes in at 4%, health care at 5% ending the war in afghanistan the most important priority for only 4% of the american people. but we should not ever forget that as we sit here today approximately 60,000 americans are fighting in afghanistan. the president is...
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the problem is he is fronting for policies that are not dealing with the debt or the deficit. >> another gold man sacks guy who made a lot of money while the company was being raped. the real problem with lew, he represents the president's worst instincts, he scuttled the deal in 2011 by the introduction of more taxes and he says no, and this is obama on steroids to the left. he is pushing the country in a place that he doesn't have a mandate for but high has no opposition to stop. >> let me say one thing, the shame of these picks is they small. they are inside the beltway, they are small, they are political hacks, where the president wanted to be a transformational president. he has been re-elected. not many presidents in history are two term presidents and he can be a successful president if he does something great. the great thing he could do for a liberal democrat, is save the social safety net from financial collapse. he had the chance to do it and he still has a chance. >> others would have brought some imagination. the opposite of reagan. >> gentleman, hang in here we will come ba
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we must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit area but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. [cheers] [applause] we remember the lessons of our past. twilight years were spent in poverty and parents of a child with a disability have nowhere to turn. we do not believe that in this country that freedom is reserved for the lucky or happiness for the few. we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us, at any time, they may face a job loss or sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things strengthen us. [cheers] [applause] they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. [cheers] [applause] we, the people, still believe that our obligations as americans are not just to ourselves, but to all prosperity we will respond to the thre
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but as part of the deal senate democrats must agree on a budget that addresses long-term deficit reduction. if there's no agreement in three months, republicans propose that no one in congress gets paid. >>> and now we turn to our special presidential inauguration coverage. as washington prepares for two days of inaugural events we have the results of a new cbs/new york times poll. the pr begins his second term with a 51% approval rating. that's similar to what president bush had at the start of his second term. let's get more from white house senior correspondent bill plante who's about a mile from the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, rebecca. well as president obama's first term morphs into his second there's really no change to a jen da. but for the next couple of days a brief holiday from gridlock and a window for celebration. last-minute preparations are under way at the capitol where the president will take the oath of office and at the parade reviewing stand at the front of the white house. because the constitution says the presidential terms end at
but as part of the deal senate democrats must agree on a budget that addresses long-term deficit reduction. if there's no agreement in three months, republicans propose that no one in congress gets paid. >>> and now we turn to our special presidential inauguration coverage. as washington prepares for two days of inaugural events we have the results of a new cbs/new york times poll. the pr begins his second term with a 51% approval rating. that's similar to what president bush had at...
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we have clear issues, as pat was alluding to, with the debt and the deficit. they're not solved and the debt ceiling, while it's an important hurdle and i don't want to default and i think the president is substantively is right, we can't be a totally polarized nation and nor can we pit one against the other and is sub zero see site. president clinton got a deal with newt gingrich, a different philosophy, he reached out across the aisle. we have to deal with entitlements, it's not a question of not wanting to take care of old people or poor people or feeding poor children, i think everybody believes we should. it's how and what extent and in what way can we afford it. bottom line, i thought the president's tone was unfortunate. he did it in the press conference right after the election, and i think that ultimately, it does the american people a disservice. >> kirsten, you read some the left wing pundits and they've had it with president obama in their view bending in these discussions with the left. they think, you know, he extended the bush tax cuts a couple
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what's motivating and propelling the thousands republicans is more than simply deficit reduction, they are suspicious about government commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care and whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. that's an outrageous statement to begin with. on top of that that's not exactly a great way to forge bipartisan consensus. it o it's one thing to question your opponent's policies and another to question their motives. and he's not interested in forging bipartisan consensus on the debt, he's interesting in demonizing and dividing republicans and he's going to continue to do that in his second term. >> megyn: why would he be doing that, simon? >> i think it's called politics, megyn. i think what we expect out of our president, just like we expect out the republican party, is for them to fight as hard as they can for the things that they believe in. and to be -- and to make clear about what they believe the other side is doing, too. listen, i listened to rick santorum at the republican convention say that if
what's motivating and propelling the thousands republicans is more than simply deficit reduction, they are suspicious about government commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care and whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. that's an outrageous statement to begin with. on top of that that's not exactly a great way to forge bipartisan consensus. it o it's one thing to question your opponent's policies and another to question their...
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the deficit, spending just stop already and start talking to each other. that's why inaugurations, that's why this is so important because this is a chance to reset everything and put the focus on the public rather than on the election. >> so frank, what about the people who voted for mitt romney? what do they need to hear today from president obama in your opinion? >> they need a recognition that they matter. it's a fair question. there's a segment on both sides, republican and democrat that won't listen to the other. but for the vast majority of americans that are some place in the middle all they want is a president of the whole country. republican independent, democrat, left and right. all they are looking for is a vision for the future that shows respect for hard-working taxpayers, a commitment to get the deficit and debt in order. an effort to bring america together. >> frank lunts, thank you very much. james taylor will perform at today's ceremony. we'll ask why he's such a barack obama supporter. that's ahead on "cbs this morning." [ lane ] do you
the deficit, spending just stop already and start talking to each other. that's why inaugurations, that's why this is so important because this is a chance to reset everything and put the focus on the public rather than on the election. >> so frank, what about the people who voted for mitt romney? what do they need to hear today from president obama in your opinion? >> they need a recognition that they matter. it's a fair question. there's a segment on both sides, republican and...
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the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexi
the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can...
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>> reporter: the biggest challenge is to secure economic stability, deal with the debt and deficit situation, the standoff he has with republicans. and then get washington out of the way so that the economy can take off. they're their are good signs that the economic recovery is getting into a fairly healthy territory. but the threat to confidence, the uncertainty around the recurring crises we've had over the debt limit, over the fiscal cliff have been an impediment. if he can get that out of the way, he could then move to some of his other priorities and watch the economy grow over the next couple of years. >> i want to talk about the priorities in a second. you brought up this standoff. you know, one point, of course, there were democratic majorities in the house and senate, making it much easier to get some of those priorities through. now he only has the senate. how will that affect the president's wish list in the second term? >> well, he has the good fortune on the immigration issue which is one of his big priorities after the economic recovery and growth. from the fact that republica
>> reporter: the biggest challenge is to secure economic stability, deal with the debt and deficit situation, the standoff he has with republicans. and then get washington out of the way so that the economy can take off. they're their are good signs that the economic recovery is getting into a fairly healthy territory. but the threat to confidence, the uncertainty around the recurring crises we've had over the debt limit, over the fiscal cliff have been an impediment. if he can get that...
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two, bring down the debt and deficit spending. those are -- >> a balanced way. i'm sure he'll use that language as well. >> a balanced way. opposing goals, but he intends to do them both. >> lynn, do you think we'll hear any talk of energy or climate change at all in the speech tomorrow? >> i do. i think climate change will be an added starter when we look at agenda goals, and i don't know if we had this discussion two months ago, even if curbing gun violence would have been something we would have thought would come up tomorrow. >> yeah. >> but i think that it is -- it is just something that the obama administration did not put a super emphasis on in the last four years and will be something that we'll hear about, in addition to the things that bill talked about. but i think somehow that obama will try to still cast himself as somebody who can try to bring more calm voice to civic discourse. i don't see how it could happen right away, because it didn't happen in the last four years. not sure how he can figure out how to navigate is this time. >> let's listen to
two, bring down the debt and deficit spending. those are -- >> a balanced way. i'm sure he'll use that language as well. >> a balanced way. opposing goals, but he intends to do them both. >> lynn, do you think we'll hear any talk of energy or climate change at all in the speech tomorrow? >> i do. i think climate change will be an added starter when we look at agenda goals, and i don't know if we had this discussion two months ago, even if curbing gun violence would have...